Posts by Dr Who Fan

1) Message boards : Cafe : ML & more in the news (Message 1508)
Posted 23 Apr 2022 by Dr Who Fan
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Machine-learning models vulnerable to undetectable backdoors: new claim

Boffins from UC Berkeley, MIT, and the Institute for Advanced Study in the United States have devised techniques to implant undetectable backdoors in machine learning (ML) models.

Their work suggests ML models developed by third parties fundamentally cannot be trusted.

In a paper that's currently being reviewed – "Planting Undetectable Backdoors in Machine Learning Models" – Shafi Goldwasser, Michael Kim, Vinod Vaikuntanathan, and Or Zamir explain how a malicious individual creating a machine learning classifier – an algorithm that classifies data into categories (eg "spam" or "not spam") – can subvert the classifier in a way that's not evident.
2) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Multiple MLDS.exe apps running (Message 1372)
Posted 29 Sep 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Mine goes back to almost the end of August (26 Aug 2021) which I reported in post 1340 which was a v9.90 task,

I have not run any since then, let me know if you want I can try to run one or two TEST v9.96 on my Windows 8.1 PC and/or on one of my Windows 7 PC's.to see what happens.
3) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Multiple MLDS.exe apps running (Message 1369)
Posted 26 Sep 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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After exiting BOINC and removing the mlds tasks from Task Manager, can I safely delete the slots folders that contain the mlds.exe for any slot that is currently not in use? Are there any other BOINC files that need to be updated?

Just to be safe, after exiting BOINC and before I deleted any unused files in the SLOTS folders I made a backup of the whole BOINCdata FOLDER and all the sub-folders to a empty flash drive using the Windows GUI COPY/PASTE commands.
* That way If I broke something I could restore BOINC to it's previous state after exiting BOINC and deleting the data folder contents then copying back the saved data.
* This will take a little bit of time depending on how large the data folder is.

I don't think there is any BOINC files that need to be updated, I didn't change anything.
Modifying and/or deleting any of the files in the data folder incorrectly can cause BOINC to be inoperable forcing you to delete the data folder and do a clean install of the BOINC program or restoring the data folder from you backup copy.

As I noted in my previous post all I did was DELETE THE CONTENTS OF THE PREVIOUSLY USED SLOTS FOLDER(S) after exiting.
BOINC should (and did in my case) delete any unused SLOTS folders when you restart it.
4) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Multiple MLDS.exe apps running (Message 1367)
Posted 24 Sep 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Just saw same thing on one of my PC's from a task last run about 1 month sgo on this project.

Program was sitting idle using 0 cpu cycles but consumed the original allocated memory amount. It was running from the slots directory where BOINC started it.

I had to kill the running program with Windows Task Manager because even exiting BOINC did not stop it.

The slots folder still had all the files that were copied over to run the (long ago exited task) task. This might of been a task that crashed upon startup or errors out some time later.

To be safe, I deleted all the files in the slots directory before rebooting to apply the needed monthly Windows updates and so BOINC would realize the slots directory was unused upon its startup.
5) Message boards : Cafe : ML & more in the news (Message 1366)
Posted 24 Sep 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT
Dodgy Data Makes AI Less Useful
The problem, according to the MIT research, is that these data sets often have errors in the human-created labels. They calculated that 3.4 percent of the data labels they examined were either flat-out wrongly labeled or were questionable in some way. (Source)
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status ... dll file (ucrtbase.DLL) not found - MLDS v9.90 (Message 1340)
Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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This happened today on one of my Windows 7 PC's (Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition)1
This Workunit has also failed for 2 other so far:
6904306 (Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition)
6928699 (Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition)

Task 6926203
Application version: Machine Learning Dataset Generator v9.90 windows_x86_64
Run time 2 hours 17 min 39 sec
CPU time 2 hours 13 min 24 sec

Windows Error Log crash information:
Faulting application name: mlds.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x61233552
Faulting module name: ucrtbase.DLL, version: 10.0.14393.2990, time stamp: 0x5caeb96f
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x000000000006e01f
Faulting process id: 0xaa8

Faulting application start time: 0x01d79aacac61dec7
Faulting application path: C:\BOINCData\slots\1\mlds.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\ucrtbase.DLL
Report Id: 1f1154f6-06b3-11ec-950f-bc305bbe8e5a

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.16.11</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
(unknown error) - exit code 195 (0xc3)</message>
<stderr_txt>
14:00:43 (4452): wrapper (7.7.26016): starting
14:00:44 (4452): wrapper: running mlds.exe (--nthreads 1 -c --maxepoch 128)
16:18:42 (4452): mlds.exe exited; CPU time 8004.645311
16:18:42 (4452): app exit status: 0x3
16:18:42 (4452): called boinc_finish(195)

</stderr_txt>
]]>
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1339)
Posted 25 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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This is so frustrating. The error is intermittent even on the same host, and appears to be happening in a bowels of the pytorch library, so it's not (necessarily) anything we've done in the client. And you're sure this system runs reliably with other intense projects? I don't doubt it, but I can't rule out a cache or memory issue endemic to your system either.

NO MEMORY PROBLEMS. This is the only project it has any problems with. Run the most demanding PrimeGrid.com task with no errors.

That said, there are other scattered reports of rare intermittent crashes on other windows systems, but it seems to be on >1% of WUs. Hard to know what the issue is.
I really wanted to statically link the new client, but that just wasn't happening on windows.

I wish I had a better answer than I don't know, but that's all I have for you for now.

Oddly the linux client seems to be a bit more unstable too.. maybe this is a pytorch v1.9 issue?

Anything could be possible. Not your fault. Maybe someone should report it to the pytorch developers as a FYI

Can you check the boinc client logs and see if the program has suspended/resumed just before crashing? We *did* change some code around that. You can simulate this by running a WU, then suspending it in the gui, and then resuming it.[/quote]
Interesting -- The Most Recent Failed Task has just started up seconds after the previous one completed in a different slot. Hmm... maybe a linking error and it was looking in old slot for the dll?
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1332)
Posted 25 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Tried running the Windows test app again of the two runs I tried today:

The first one completed successfully and has validated.
The second one failed just like the one from a few weeks ago with.Exit status 195 (0x000000C3) EXIT_CHILD_FAILED with the error being thrown by the torch_cpu.dll file.

Here is the Windows error report logging from the failed task:
Faulting application name: mlds.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x61233552
Faulting module name: torch_cpu.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x60c3de87
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000005d00009
Faulting process id: 0xb14
Faulting application start time: 0x01d799aa9c7386fc
Faulting application path: C:\BOINCData\slots\4\mlds.exe
Faulting module path: C:\BOINCData\slots\4\torch_cpu.dll
Report Id: dfe6bf23-059d-11ec-8365-f80f41b4b3e3
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1322)
Posted 13 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Update Appears the TEST APP is not working out 100% of the time either on that PC.
2 TASKS FALED with "195 (0x000000C3) EXIT_CHILD_FAILED"
6594296
6593714

.. and have 2 TEST APP tasks currently in progress running for over 1 hour each so far:
6595197
6593736

CRASH Details from the Windows Error reporting LOG:
Faulting application name: mlds.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x61135d4d
Faulting module name: torch_cpu.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x60c3de87

Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000005d00009
Faulting process id: 0x484
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7900d46609a5e
Faulting application path: C:\BOINCData\slots\4\mlds.exe
Faulting module path: C:\BOINCData\slots\4\torch_cpu.dll
Report Id: 87590a84-fc00-11eb-8363-f80f41b4b3e3
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1321)
Posted 13 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Just saw your message about the new TEST app. I am running it now on the Windows 8.1 PC that had the crash. So far 2 tasks have started without any errors.

That PC, HOST 377 had another crash earlier today with the default app. Looking at the TASK LIST for the PC it ran 4 default tasks with out error and one task that had a Validate error since the previous crash.
Only thing different today was the Monthly "Patch Tuesday" Windows Update and subsequent manual reboot, followed by running CCleaner to clean all the "built up crap" out before restarting BOINC.
11) Message boards : Cafe : ML & more in the news (Message 1308)
Posted 9 Aug 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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AI algorithms uncannily good at spotting your race from medical x>rays

... They were surprisingly accurate. The worst performing was able to predict the right answer 80 per cent of the time, and the best was able to do this 99 per cent, according to the paper.
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1301)
Posted 30 Jul 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Thanks for the fast reply. If error happens again will post back.

EDIT.. I'm not a programmer by profession but a avid tinkerer that know enough programming and debugging skills be dangerous.

I just did a quick check on the PC that encountered the error (Win 8.1) with Dependency Walker to see what it might tell us:
IT says the following 5 DLL's were not found.
API-MS-WIN-CORE-KERNEL32-PRIVATE-L1-1-1.DLL
API-MS-WIN-CORE-PRIVATEPROFILE-L1-1-1.DLL
API-MS-WIN-SERVICE-PRIVATE-L1-1-1.DLL
C10.DLL
TORCH_CPU.DLL

I could not find the C10.DLL in the project folder but there are 3 other DLL's there: torch.dll-961, torch_cpu.dll-961 and torch_global_deps.dll-961 all 3 have creation dates of ‎Friday, ‎September ‎25, ‎2020, ‏‎14:46:09.

Hope this is of some help.
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1296)
Posted 29 Jul 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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I have sent a PM to pianoman [MLC@Home Admin], asking for a look at the error message.
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1289)
Posted 26 Jul 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Just a fyi... A task #6071628 tried to run on one of my PC's and crashed upon startup with Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND.
In the tasks STDERR output was "(unknown error) - exit code 3221225781 (0xc0000135)".

Never had this happen before on that PC. It is running Windows 8.1 with all the latest patches/updates.
If it happens again I'll post back in this topic.
15) Message boards : Cafe : IBM shows quantum computers can solve ... (Message 1270)
Posted 17 Jul 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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IBM shows quantum computers can solve these problems that classical computers find hard

Big Blue's quantum team has mathematically demonstrated that a quantum algorithm could work better than a classical one for machine-learning classification problems.
To put it simply, by using the quantum kernel approach, a quantum computer can distinguish between more features and, therefore, see patterns even in a huge database, where a classical computer would only see random noise.
16) Message boards : Cafe : IBM rolls out CodeFlare, an open-source framework for machine learning apps (Message 1246)
Posted 8 Jul 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Found this article on ZD Net's Tech Republic website.
IBM rolls out CodeFlare, an open-source framework for machine learning apps
The goal is to simplify the integration and scaling of big data and AI workflows onto the hybrid cloud, the company said.

IBM Wednesday announced CodeFlare, an open-source, serverless framework designed to simplify the integration and efficient scaling of big data and AI workflows onto the hybrid cloud. CodeFlare is built on top of an emerging open-source distributed computing framework for machine learning applications known as Ray.
17) Message boards : Cafe : Robots were dreamt up 100 years ago... (Message 1081)
Posted 7 Feb 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Will robots and/or Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) take over the world?

Robots were dreamt up 100 years ago – why haven’t our fears about them changed since?

The play R.U.R.: Rossum’s Universal Robots, by Czech playwright Karl Čapek. And it is now 100 years old, having first been staged in Prague on January 25, 1921.

R.U.R. is important for a lot of reasons. It is universally celebrated as the work of art that gave the world the very word “robot”. What is less often remarked that R.U.R. also gave us the basic plot of so very many of our stories about robots and AI that have been made in the last hundred years.
18) Message boards : Cafe : How Artificial Intelligence can be used for negotiations (Message 1059)
Posted 26 Jan 2021 by Dr Who Fan
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Like a good deal? Maybe a hagglebot can help

Earlier this month, the Olympics for hagglebots was held: the 11th annual competition for artificial intelligence (AI) that has been trained to negotiate.

From the article:
... But now horse-trading artificial intelligence that can act on its own has begun appearing in business.

If you sell to Walmart, you might have already met one. An AI system developed by Pactum was tested by the giant US retailer.

A chatbot contacts suppliers, and invites them to renegotiate together contracts over things like price and payment terms.
19) Message boards : Cafe : What Is GPT-3 And Why Is It Revolutionizing Artificial Intelligence? (Message 996)
Posted 30 Dec 2020 by Dr Who Fan
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From Forbes magazine:
What Is GPT-3 And Why Is It Revolutionizing Artificial Intelligence?
GPT-3 has been created by OpenAI, a research business co-founded by Elon Musk and has been described as the most important and useful advance in AI for years.

But there’s some confusion over exactly what it does (and indeed doesn’t do), so here I will try and break it down into simple terms for any non-techy readers interested in understanding the fundamental principles behind it. I’ll also cover some of the problems it raises, as well as why some people think its significance has been overinflated somewhat by hype.
20) Message boards : Cafe : Geeking out on emerging technologies ... (Message 837)
Posted 13 Nov 2020 by Dr Who Fan
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Geeking out on emerging technologies in the field of artificial intelligence
Nowadays, computers appear to do a lot more than unravel mathematical equations. In the last half- century, programming has become the ultimate tool to automate tasks and save time, but how much can we automate, and how do we go about doing so? Can a computer observe a photograph and say, “Aha, I see a lovely couple walking over a bridge under an umbrella in the rain”? Can software make medical decisions as accurately as trained professionals can?


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