Posts by wolfman1360

1) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Out of work for CPU (Message 1305)
Posted 3 Aug 2021 by wolfman1360
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Appears to be another 29000 ready to send, up from 3000 or so last night.
Very nicely done.
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exit status -1073741515 (0xC0000135) STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND (Message 1295)
Posted 29 Jul 2021 by wolfman1360
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I'm having something similar on a Windows server 2008 machine.
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/result.php?resultid=6117764
Do these tasks require any prerequisites on older windows versions?
thanks
3) Message boards : Science : Artificial intelligence speeds forecasts to control fusion experiments (Message 1278)
Posted 26 Jul 2021 by wolfman1360
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This is super great to hear and yet one more of many reasons to contribute.
Thanks for sharing.
4) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : GPU Utilization and Resource Requirements (Message 1103)
Posted 23 Feb 2021 by wolfman1360
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Hello,

I've got 2 GPUs here. From what I've read Polaris isn't supported, yet - so my RX570 will remain crunching other projects, for the time being.
I do however have a gtx 1050 ti in my laptop on Windows. What types of runtimes should I expect versus CPU? I recall Asteroids GPU tasks ran about equal to 3 CPU cores.
This has an i7-8750h, for reference.
5) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Back at it again, error while computing. Boinc 7.16.16, brand new Ubuntu install (Message 1102)
Posted 22 Feb 2021 by wolfman1360
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Brand new install of Ubuntu 1804, latest Boinc - 7.16.16 on an FX6300

You probably got BOINC 7.16.16 from Locutus of Borg. I found out on QuChemPedIA that it does not include all the required libraries for that project.
I uninstalled it, and went back to the standard apt version using "sudo apt install boinc". You get BOINC 7.9.3 on Ubuntu 18.04, which works for me.

Yes, that's exactly where I got it from. This helps a ton, thank you.
I'll go back to 7.9.3.
Are there any worthwhile improvements in Ubuntu 20.04 that make it worth upgrading, apart from newer Boinc versions in the repository itself, not that that means too much.
6) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Back at it again, error while computing. Boinc 7.16.16, brand new Ubuntu install (Message 1100)
Posted 22 Feb 2021 by wolfman1360
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Hello.
Brand new install of Ubuntu 1804, latest Boinc - 7.16.16 on an FX6300
The following task, and tons more, errored out immediately. This happened in November as well and I never did figure out how to resolve the issue, but I'm trying again now that I have more time to troubleshoot.
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/result.php?resultid=4103592

It claims the file system is read only and there is an error mounting. Other projects are crunching without issue, so either I am missing something blatantly obvious or receiving the wrong information.

I have attempted to both reset and remove the project, making sure everything was removed from /var/lib/boinc/projects relating to MLC. It is. Then attempting to add it once again with the same result, just in case there were errors downloading the needed files or with the files themselves.
I have no idea what to do or try next. This sort of thing has never happened before with any other project and nothing, that I can see, is read only on my file system. I've tried searching for issues with this particular build of Boinc and am not finding anything related to mine.
Any help is very much appreciated. I've got a few more systems that I'd like to get going on this project again, but don't want to add them until I can make sure I get this resolved. The last thing I want to do is hurt the project with of errored out tasks.
/tmp does not appear to have anything relating to MLC listed.
7) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : create mount dir error: Read-only file system despite chmod -R 777 (Message 851)
Posted 17 Nov 2020 by wolfman1360
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/tmp would be the place to check. If the message is correct you somehow got it mounted ro. Or the message could be misleading, in that case it could mean you can't write there for other reasons.

Thanks. I'll take a look.
8) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : create mount dir error: Read-only file system despite chmod -R 777 (Message 847)
Posted 16 Nov 2020 by wolfman1360
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Hello,
Just installed Boinc on a few systems. I followed my usual Linux install procedure which - to be fair - is not very difficult and likely lacks a few things, however a very different result is being seen this go round. It is my standard Ubuntu 1804 procedure which simply involves installing Boinc along with virtualbox and a few libraries for climateprediction. nothing special.
After doing so, I am now getting tasks such as this one. I did try adding sudo chmod -R 777 /var/lib/boinc-client and restarting, then re-adding the project. Still no go.
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/result.php?resultid=2896976

I am far from a Linux expert so this has me stumped. Other projects, such as Rosetta, are running just fine currently, or at least are seeming to so far. My deepest apologies for all the errored out tasks.
If anyone has any ideas to go about fixing this it would be greatly appreciated as this is the only project that appears to be failing with each task seeming to fail immediately.
9) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Too many WUs (Message 289)
Posted 31 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Come on, you can't seriously compare FAH to BOINC. The functionality of the FAH client is very limited. That's not negative, it does what it's designed to do. But what is that really? Get a task, finish it, return it, get another one. No decisions to make. And you take that as an example of being smart? BOINC is much more complex than that. Different projects, different applications, work cache, deadlines, resource shares. People use all that to their liking. And then they're annoyed when a machine can't do it on its own or makes decisions they don't approve of. Set up BOINC as simple as FAH. Eliminate the cache, run a single project, and leave it alone. Then you are a big step closer to what FAH does and BOINC will do it well enough. You can carefully add more complexity but remember YOU are responsible for providing the right conditions.

Yes, and that is exactly the reason why BOINC isn't working very well.
Because the scientists need some sort of standard to work towards, like with FAH.
Boinc Mgr won't be able to learn anything from FAH in terms of WU queuing, however they can by looking how well the WUs are optimized for the hardware it's running at.
In my opnion, scientists need a standardized condition, and from that condition each client can individually adjust.

The way things currently are, is that one project aims towards very small WUs, that don't work well on fast hardware; while others run the GPU to 70 or 80% load, while even others are using the full 100% load.
It's a topic more suited for the boinc forums, but the whole boinc statistics, boinc setup, boinc BAM, is a spagetti of all kinds of systems working against one another...
Instead of editing the cc and app_config files, they should have at least some sort of adjustment within the GUI for those things.
Like, use only 1 GPU; Don't use CPU; or set CPU and/or GPU values to for instance 0.5 or 0.33.

Not sure where FAH even came into this. FAH is its own completely separate program and its own project, independent of anything else. Boinc has dozens of projects that utilize its capabilities and I'm not sure how one can expect biological, numbers, and machine learning projects to act the same on every CPU or GPU. PS: I have yet to see FAH have the ability to only use half a GPU, so ....really confused there too.

Every project is coded just slightly different and it is up to the end user to connect to a project *AFTER* all other projects are run dry. This has been said time and time again. Sure, FAH works great. It also doesn't download a day or more of cached tasks, have different varieties of projects. So obviously it works better. Playing with Boinc and trying to micromanage it only leads one to become more frustrated - let projects run dry before adding other projects, read about on forums to figure out what works best. This is where Boinc is different. Every project is not optimized for every type of CPU or GPU. I feel like you're comparison is similar to Apple vs Windows - sure, Apple hardware runs great on the Apple operating system. Whereas Windows has a variety of variables that cause it to run better or worse, depending on the machine in question.
Even with the 2 day deadline, I never had Boinc download too much work for this project, even on an older core 2 duo. People like to change the work cache setting and this is usually where things start
deteriorating.

Just my thoughts of course.
10) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Validation errors. (Message 274)
Posted 29 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Apparently you are not aware that not all projects yield deterministic results. That is, there is some randomness.
That is one of the reasons they have validity checks. Why do you think they send it out to two computers for comparison?
You might as well complain that they are wasting half their processing power if you like. Go where you want.

I will stick to this project. I love the response we get from the admin - and a human one at that, who is actively trying to improve the project and code that it runs on. Despite countless forum posts, still no AVX support at Rosetta, which would make things much faster. I'm trying to give this and WCG 50% resources each, though Boinc currently seems to think MLC should get all the attention since I suppose its deadlines are much sooner.
11) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : Too many WUs (Message 273)
Posted 29 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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I think one problem is your idea of how BOINC should work. BOINC is designed to work on its own and make its own decisions. You seem to wish to be always in control, in detail. But babysitting, micromanagement and sudden changes just make things more difficult for the system. Set up the basic guidelines, avoid restrictions and leave it alone, that's how BOINC works best. It may be boring and it takes patience but it works fine.
My cache settings are the same as yours, 1.0+0.1 days, and I added MLC with 10% resource share a few days ago. No interference since and all is well. The client doesn't fetch more tasks than it can handle and does work at will. Turnaround times are approaching one day and will hopefully settle there. After that I may re-evaluate.
Down the thread you ask for more controls to be made available. IMO that's not the way to go. I wouldn't mind if those controls existed but personally I wouldn't use them.

I think what Jim1348 mentioned is a different issue. I've seen it occasionally but not often enough to develop a theory. It seems to happen with new projects or new applications. BOINC then fetches the same amount of work again and again, as fast as possible and apparently without end. No New Tasks will bring it to its senses but by then you'll have far more than you can handle. Surely you would notice if that happened.

I have far more issues in the long term trying to babysit rather than let Boinc decide what is best. The more projects you have, the more frustrating it is going to be for you, the user, in the end.

I'm still trying to figure out how exactly resource share works. Is it just less time contacting servers? Less workunits per project? I know it won't be an instant process and will likely take a solid 3 weeks or so to sort itself out. I do have a small cache of work here too. That always seems to work best.
12) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Pi4 (Message 239)
Posted 25 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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I have a Pi4, and while its not my top priority, I should be able to get at least a test app for arm32/arm64 relatively soon. Only time will tell about performance.

Awesome!
I've got a few of them somewhere that I gave up on, but this might be the excuse to get them out and crunching again.
13) Message boards : News : MLC@Home and CORAL (Message 186)
Posted 19 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Similar to Jim1348 here.
Congratulations and excited to see the development and plans ahead.
14) Message boards : Cafe : Badges (Message 160)
Posted 12 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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I definitely like having work. Badges can come later.
Keep up the great work and really appreciate the quick responses so far. This in itself makes me want to contribute.
15) Questions and Answers : Issue Discussion : CPU extensions used? (Message 151)
Posted 9 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Very good to know.
Been looking at the Ryzen G series processors. Should be some interesting competition there especially if rumors are to be believed and we have an 8 c/16 t varient. I'd like to build a few intel nuc sized pcs - would be great for crunching in summer.
16) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : About an OSX client.. (Message 150)
Posted 9 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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I'm available for testing - I do have a mac.
thanks
17) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory (Message 133)
Posted 8 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Well installed fuse on the Linux machines that were giving errors and seemed to fix the problem.
Apt-get install fuse

I'm not sure why it wasn't installed to begin with on some and not others.
Things are crunching on smoothly now, however.
18) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory (Message 132)
Posted 8 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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What distribution?

Ubuntu 1804.
19) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory (Message 130)
Posted 8 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Hello
Receiving this on a few machines. Like this one.
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=475
Anything I need to do to fix this?
Task in question
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/result.php?resultid=103971

thanks
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows app up for testing! Report issues here (Message 122)
Posted 7 Jul 2020 by wolfman1360
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Not able to find run test applications under the normal MLC preferences page.
Not sure what I'm missing.
Do I need to have valid tasks before I can enable this?


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